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so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchal
so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than...
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can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> reporter: what do you think, is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: they all wish they had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i approach they are both lying to me and i'm basing my decision on that. >> reporter: the question i have that maybe you can't answer, why can't you make up your minds? they all said the rest of the debates are now more crucial. after watching round one, perhaps significantly changed the entire race. ron allen, nbc news, denver. >>> all right. speaking of fact checkers, we'll talk to one next, but we did ask you what you think, was mitt romney's debate performance the october surprise? andrew kelly wrote, unfortunately yes, but at least the president didn't sling mud. from ryan ross cummings, romney's flip on policies threw off obama, period. ady for a taste of
can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> reporter: what do you think, is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: they all wish they had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i approach they are both lying to me and i'm basing my...
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the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure, constantly pitting one america against the other. in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded,
the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure,...
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obama's case, held the office over these last four years, they have talked a lot about each other. but they have not faced each other, man to man, person to person, face to face, on the same stage, as far as i can tell, in eight years. the last time i have a record of them being on the same stage together was a gridiron dinner in 2004 in washington, d.c. these guys have been campaigning against each other by remote for quite some time. seeing them face to face tonight is going to be remarkable. chris, in terms of the way that these guys are doing their last-minute preparations, is the last-minute stuff that they're doing fact or is the last-minute stuff they're doing psychological? >> well, you know, bobby kennedy said to jack kennedy on the way out the door to debate dick nixon, kick him in the balls. you know? sometimes it's just something like that, something like that. that's history, not me talking. and sometimes it's just that kind of sense of, go get 'em! and that can be the thing you need. nixon's guy, on the other hand, said to him, "erase the assassin's image." that was a
obama's case, held the office over these last four years, they have talked a lot about each other. but they have not faced each other, man to man, person to person, face to face, on the same stage, as far as i can tell, in eight years. the last time i have a record of them being on the same stage together was a gridiron dinner in 2004 in washington, d.c. these guys have been campaigning against each other by remote for quite some time. seeing them face to face tonight is going to be remarkable....
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this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a dissaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama tyke looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by one of the lamest moderators ever and seized with relish. this was romney the salesman and my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. it's beyond depressing, but it's true. gentlemen, that's a tough assessment. it's matched by this, i'm showing you one of the strongest headlines, a full banner basically giving it completely to romney last night. governor rendell, you have been in a lot of tough debates. i don't know what you thought. i guess i'm known as an obama supporter and i certainly wanted him to do well last night, and yet i don't get it. i don't quite
this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a dissaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama tyke looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by...
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you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies. family planning. in florida, of course, medicare's a big issue. women really want to look at candidates that are going to support issues that help women and families and that's what's going on. i think in florida and around
you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among...
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we're taking a survey.coup year. for some reason the republican party and their conservative allies can't get away from describing obama as muslim, not born here, not believing in america. >> i know, i know, i know this is what they do. the head of florida's gop where the call appears to originate told "the st. augustine record," it was off script completely. we have everything scripted. those are clearly not the views of the republican party of clay county or the mitt romney campaign. they did not deny the incident. this whole thing about it was a renegade, it was a rogue operation, those polling operations, those -- there are people sitting in rooms, sitting in call stations. you have people sitting next to you, sitting to your left and right. nobody ever heard her saying that? >> well, they claim not. >> these are phone banks. >> they're supposed to have scripts. if a person says "a," you say "b," if they say "b," you say "c." if this was a rogue, this was someone who -- >> the reason i bring this up is when they
we're taking a survey.coup year. for some reason the republican party and their conservative allies can't get away from describing obama as muslim, not born here, not believing in america. >> i know, i know, i know this is what they do. the head of florida's gop where the call appears to originate told "the st. augustine record," it was off script completely. we have everything scripted. those are clearly not the views of the republican party of clay county or the mitt romney...
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. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way since that debate where he told hillary clinton she was nice enough. he'll be very contained, very self-controlled and i suspect very presidential. my guess is that's part of the whole preparation process the president's gone through. he's not going to let mitt romney get under his skin because he's very conscience of the fact that that would represent a victory for romney. that would become the story of the debate, much as al gore's size became the story of the 2000 debate. >> the bridge of size. thank you. thank you very much. as we go to break, new poll
. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way...
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. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know w
. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on...
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obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from those kind of interruptions from mitt romney, and mitt romney did that all night to show how he could be aggressive and assertive and go toe to toe with this president and look presidential. romney was effective in doing that during this debate where the president -- i think his strategy was to be more likeable, and we saw that congruent in his body language, with the head tilts, which are around the idea of likability, which was a big thing toure brought up earlier at the top of the program. >> we saw a lot of the president's stress and disl
obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from...
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it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there and i think most of us agree that really, they've both got good ideas and great candidates but what it comes down to is, which plan the is better for america. ultimately, i'm leaning towards romney but there's still a couple more debates left and -- >> keira you said you don't have enough information. you're a kindergarten teacher here in the denver area. not enough information? there's so much out there. we've been campaigning for a year. >> finding the information that youch can connect with and the information that you can and i'm still looking for that. >> chris, wh
it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there...
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president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the national numbers are as tight as they get. the primaries are over, the conventions are over, but the debate
president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market...
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my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in four years. think it showed. >> that's what happens. emp agrees with you. it's hard to the say to the president, you're wrong, sir. no one interrupts you. no one tries to tell you control the room. that's the power of the presidency. he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a pre
my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in...
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the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he had short-line railroads, had them all over the country. anytime i wanted to know how the economy was going to do next quarter, i'd pick him up and say how much are you moving? he would tell me. he'd go, picking up. sure enough, railroads. leading indicator. at least from what i saw. >> if you've got employment, housing, autos and railroads and -- >> it's a tough argument to say that there's something wrong with the numbers. >> andy,
the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up....
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first of all, for two years, president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy and civil society in egypt, so those who went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. two, when the revolt began, joe biden said that mubarak was a democrat. the secretary of state said we're with him and he's a reformer. by the time the u.s. took its position, the demonstrators had been in tahrir square for days, there had been police crackdowns and when we said it was time for mubarak to go, the the reformers had been begun to be crowded out by extremist elements. yes, there's a big difference between anticipating and leading versus not leading, reacting, cutting our traditional support for democracy. that's the record of president obama and that contributed to the mess. >> so, you're saying he should have pushed mubarak out, but done it differently or he shouldn't have done that? >> the people in a country, reagan once said that we should support the march of freedom, but we can't determine its pace. the people
first of all, for two years, president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy and civil society in egypt, so those who went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. two, when the revolt began, joe biden said that mubarak was a democrat. the secretary of state said we're with him and he's a reformer. by the time the u.s. took its position, the demonstrators had been in tahrir square for days, there had been police crackdowns and when we...
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president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of
president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to...
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four years ago there were 15 states that barack obama and john mccain were advertising in. now it's down to nine. you know, so you're getting same amount of advertising dollars squeezed into nine states. almost overearn gaugement with with the battleground states. >> the battleground map has dramatically decreased. we're in fewer states. you're not seeing, for example, the obama campaign talked about maybe we'll go into arizona or texas and georgia. they didn't. the obama campaign had long been looking at pennsylvania and michigan. they didn't. remember, in florida eight years ago we were talking about democrats playing missouri and even west virginia at one point or throwing money down to get the other side to spend money or compete and while republicans were looking at places like washington too. where's new mexico? >> robert, one of the things john cohen head of the polling team said it is fascinating the split between the engagement of young voters in swing states and voters in non-swing states. that's where this is being waged. that's where we need to check with enthus
four years ago there were 15 states that barack obama and john mccain were advertising in. now it's down to nine. you know, so you're getting same amount of advertising dollars squeezed into nine states. almost overearn gaugement with with the battleground states. >> the battleground map has dramatically decreased. we're in fewer states. you're not seeing, for example, the obama campaign talked about maybe we'll go into arizona or texas and georgia. they didn't. the obama campaign had...
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. >> we do not want four more years of where we've been. i represent a different path. >>> president obama meantime tries to seize the moment as early voting begins around the country, offering a closing argument. >> when i took office, we were losing nearly 800,000 jobs a month and were mired in a rut. today i believe that as a nation we are moving forward again. >> this morning, the state of the race. a debate preview, and a look at the issues that will sway undecided voters. with us, republican governor of new jersey, the keynoter at the gop convention, chris christie. and for the obama campaign, the architect of his 2008 run, now white house senior adviser david plouffe. finally, insights and analysis from our political roundtable. joining us, conservative activist and founder of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reed. former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. anchor of bbc's "world news america" katty kay. and our chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. with both side
. >> we do not want four more years of where we've been. i represent a different path. >>> president obama meantime tries to seize the moment as early voting begins around the country, offering a closing argument. >> when i took office, we were losing nearly 800,000 jobs a month and were mired in a rut. today i believe that as a nation we are moving forward again. >> this morning, the state of the race. a debate preview, and a look at the issues that will sway...
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look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put o
look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in...
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paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate
paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater...